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Alarm

#1 Post by Rover dave » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:22 pm

Hi I have recently bought a 1993 rover 214si 3 door off ebay and I have to say what a great car to drive , anyway today I was checking all the fuses under the dash as the boot light does not work (bulb ok) after remove the fuses under the bonnet one by one then replacing in the right order when I came to close the bonnet the alarm kept going off :S , so I have now had to disconnect the battery :mad any advice please .

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Re: Alarm

#2 Post by 220 GSi turbo » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:38 pm

It will all depend on what type of alarm is fitted: in 1993, not all of the range came with a factory-fitted alarm, but there were a couple of types approved by Rover as a dealer-fit.

if your interior lamp lens has a dark 'bubble' in it, your car has a factory-fitted infra-red operated alarm, possibly with an immobiliser too and the car horn is used as the sounder.

First thing to try is reconnecting the battery, let the alarm do its 30-second stint of going off, then shut the bonnet and all doors, then try to re-sync everything by using your remote fob (might need to arm and disarm several times).

As far as the boot lamp fault is concerned, the lamp has a permanent 12v feed from the fuse, and it receives an earth from contacts in the boot latch. Does the 'boot open' lamp on the dash come on when you open the boot? If so, it proves that the latch is providing the necessary earth.

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Re: Alarm

#3 Post by Rover dave » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:29 pm

Hi thank`s for the reply , my car has a small red light built in the dash between the rev counter and speedo as I have seen on many rover`s the horn sound`s when the alarm goes off , I don't have a fob it`s just a key :S so how do I re set anything ? have not seen boot light sign on dash . Advice please . Thank`s . :) What would cause this ?

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Re: Alarm

#4 Post by Julesmat50 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:15 pm

Rover dave wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:29 pm
my car has a small red light built in the dash between the rev counter and speedo as I have seen on many rover`s the horn sound`s when the alarm goes off , I don't have a fob it`s just a key
It's possible that removing the fuses has disconnected the power to the alarm, making it think there has been a tamper attempt in order to steal the car. You might find that as well as the alarm sounding, the immobiliser is active as well, meaning you can't start the car. The way to tell is the red light you mention. If that is constant red when the alarm is sounding, then the immobiliser is active.
This sounds very much like the system fitted to my car, which is the basic Rover alarm/immobiliser. The problem here is that you say you don't have a fob, just a key. It's the 2 button fob which switches the alarm and immobiliser on and off - without it, you can't reset the alarm as far as I know. There is a method for deactivating the alarm/immobiliser using just the key, but you need the 4 digit combination for your car and it is only temporary - as soon as you lock the car again, the system will be active.
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Re: Alarm

#5 Post by crepello » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:17 pm

Rover dave wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:22 pm
I have to say what a great car to drive
May I ask why this seems to be a surprise to you?
Within your answer might lie an idea or two as to how we might approach the task of getting this truth more widely believed.
There are quite a few cars out there waiting to feel the benefit!

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Re: Alarm

#6 Post by crepello » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:25 pm

It sounds like you have an earlier security system. As has been mentioned, it seems to believe your work was an attempt to break in to your car. I believe you need to prove you're the owner by demonstrating you have the key, which you do by locking and unlocking the car with the key.

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Re: Alarm

#7 Post by Liverpoolman1 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:01 am

I don't know if this is true as I heard it a long time ago, but if you lock and unlock your doors four - or is it five - times it will re-set the alarm. Worth a try.

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Re: Alarm

#8 Post by 1234dist » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:27 pm

That’s the eak emergency access key.
This is sometimes different on each car.
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Re: Alarm

#9 Post by 220 GSi turbo » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:44 pm

Did the car come with its handbook, service record book, etc?

If so, the 'security card' may be in there: it will give you the four-digit key access code. And the handbook will take you through the process of entering the code.

Can we assume the car is now immobilised? Or is it just a case of the alarm going off constantly?
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Re: Alarm

#10 Post by Rover dave » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:43 pm

crepello wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:17 pm
Rover dave wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:22 pm
I have to say what a great car to drive
May I ask why this seems to be a surprise to you?
Within your answer might lie an idea or two as to how we might approach the task of getting this truth more widely believed.
There are quite a few cars out there waiting to feel the benefit!
The answer to your question is this is the first time I have driven a rover 214 , sound`s daft but I bought one because I'm into bl / rover car`s and I love the look of the 214 . :wink3

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Re: Alarm

#11 Post by Rover dave » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:48 pm

220 GSi turbo wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:44 pm
Did the car come with its handbook, service record book, etc?

If so, the 'security card' may be in there: it will give you the four-digit key access code. And the handbook will take you through the process of entering the code.

Can we assume the car is now immobilised? Or is it just a case of the alarm going off constantly?
Yes I think the car is now immobilised and no I don't have any books or fob with the car . :mope

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Re: Alarm

#12 Post by 1234dist » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:52 pm

PLEASE DO NOT POST REGARDING BYPASSING IMMOBILISERS ON OPEN FORUM, PLEASE TAKE IT TO PM
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Re: Alarm

#13 Post by Rover dave » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:03 pm

Many thanks to you all ,but with no books or fob what can I do any ideas ? :S

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Re: Alarm

#14 Post by Rover dave » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:09 pm

crepello wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:25 pm
It sounds like you have an earlier security system. As has been mentioned, it seems to believe your work was an attempt to break in to your car. I believe you need to prove you're the owner by demonstrating you have the key, which you do by locking and unlocking the car with the key.
Anyone tried this , does it work ?

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Re: Alarm

#15 Post by 220 GSi turbo » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:37 pm

Where are you, Dave?

We may be able to point you in the direction of somebody local who can offer some practical help.

In the meantime, if anybody else reading this has a 1993 car with its handbook, perhaps they could post what the handbook says about the alarm and immobiliser. I think it predates the 'Lucas 5AS' system, which most cars had from 1994 onwards.
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