Which kind of brace struts...

Done anything to upgrade or personalise your 200 or 400? Wanting some advice on upgrades? Then talk about it in here.

Moderator: Forum Staff

Message
Author
User avatar
Dorchester
Club Member
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:00 am
Location: Bioule, France

Which kind of brace struts...

#1 Post by Dorchester » Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:16 pm

... for my 1994 (mk2) 214i cabby?
It looks that the one from Dark Ice Designs I've put in my Rover 25 1.4 doesn't do for the middle bolt.
Image
It needs to be around half a cm higher not to be constricted by the highest injector (right one) & the coolant tank edge.
Any link would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :)
Rover 214i cabriolet v16 1994 BRG & lightstone leather
Rover 25 1.4 Saws Tuning remapped 2002 platinum silver
Rover 75 V6 2.5 1999 Atlantic blue & sandstone beige leather

User avatar
Dorchester
Club Member
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:00 am
Location: Bioule, France

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#2 Post by Dorchester » Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:24 pm

Rover 214i cabriolet v16 1994 BRG & lightstone leather
Rover 25 1.4 Saws Tuning remapped 2002 platinum silver
Rover 75 V6 2.5 1999 Atlantic blue & sandstone beige leather

JOHNDQ
Posts: 553
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:38 am

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#3 Post by JOHNDQ » Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:27 pm

Ive used the Dark Ice and OMP one on mine both fit fine

User avatar
1234dist
Club Member
Posts: 6470
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:08 pm
Location: Chapel of Dist, Manchester
Contact:

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#4 Post by 1234dist » Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:35 pm

If it doesn’t fit just drill out the holes a little.
Stay away from the adjustable ones as you will feel no benefit.
Pastor @ Rover Revival NFP Garage
220 Coupe turbo K785OAT
218 VVC Cabriolet R220OVR
Mercedes C270 diesel P80CJM
620 SLI P267LOM HONDA

User avatar
Dorchester
Club Member
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:00 am
Location: Bioule, France

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#5 Post by Dorchester » Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:55 pm

Regarding the adjustable ones I fully agree.
Nevertheless on my cabby the Dark Ice one doesn't fit: I can screw 2 bolts (front & back) out of 3 on each side but the middle bolt is too low or the strut brace hole needs to be 1/2cm higher. :sad
Rover 214i cabriolet v16 1994 BRG & lightstone leather
Rover 25 1.4 Saws Tuning remapped 2002 platinum silver
Rover 75 V6 2.5 1999 Atlantic blue & sandstone beige leather

User avatar
ROVER-25X
Posts: 1707
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:17 pm
Location: 1hr 10m from 1234dist
Contact:

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#6 Post by ROVER-25X » Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:18 pm

K-Series or Honda engine ?
The 25X (2001 ROVER 25 1.4 Impression S, fate TBD)
The CX8 (1997 ROVER Cabriolet 1.6 K-Series, Resto Project)
The 25XD (2004 ROVER 25 2.0TD, Track Car ?)
The Parts Bin (2001 ROVER 25 1.6 S)
The ASTRA-DX (2012 VAUXHALL ASTRA 1.7CDTi, Daily Eco Driver)

User avatar
Dorchester
Club Member
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:00 am
Location: Bioule, France

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#7 Post by Dorchester » Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:40 pm

ROVER-25X wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:18 pm
K-Series or Honda engine ?
K-series like all 214 mk1 to mk3 and 216 mk3 (but not the same indeed!).
I don't think the difference is huge in term of efficiency even if lots of people seem to incline to a 216 and its Honda engine (mk1 & 2).
I assume that now 214 cabbies tend to become rarer...
Moreover I think the 214 upsides are a better mpg and both insurance & registration document cheaper cost: in France a 214 is worth 6 fiscal hp when a 216 is 9 fiscal hp.
And above all the K engine is British made and a well known engine for me since I've got another one in my 25 (and in the past I'd got a 214Gsi saloon, my parents' car). :D
Rover 214i cabriolet v16 1994 BRG & lightstone leather
Rover 25 1.4 Saws Tuning remapped 2002 platinum silver
Rover 75 V6 2.5 1999 Atlantic blue & sandstone beige leather

User avatar
Dorchester
Club Member
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:00 am
Location: Bioule, France

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#8 Post by Dorchester » Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:55 pm

BTW I may add this Dark Ice rear brace strut in the boot as well in a close future to achieve the stiffness of the body:

Image

There isn't any German Wiechers rear strut brace. They can only be found at Dark Ice's and I think that this time mk1, 2 or 3 will not make any difference.
The downside may be a little less room in the boot and causing a slight obstruction had I the idea to tilt the back seats, but the way isn't huge even without...
Rover 214i cabriolet v16 1994 BRG & lightstone leather
Rover 25 1.4 Saws Tuning remapped 2002 platinum silver
Rover 75 V6 2.5 1999 Atlantic blue & sandstone beige leather

JOHNDQ
Posts: 553
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:38 am

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#9 Post by JOHNDQ » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:42 pm

If your fitting the dark ice rear brace you need the 45/ZS one NOT the 200/25/ZR

JOHNDQ
Posts: 553
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:38 am

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#10 Post by JOHNDQ » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:44 pm

Dorchester wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:55 pm
Regarding the adjustable ones I fully agree.
Nevertheless on my cabby the Dark Ice one doesn't fit: I can screw 2 bolts (front & back) out of 3 on each side but the middle bolt is too low or the strut brace hole needs to be 1/2cm higher. :sad
What about adding a 10mm washer under the strut brace

User avatar
Dorchester
Club Member
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:00 am
Location: Bioule, France

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#11 Post by Dorchester » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:04 pm

I can't : the thread is too short. The very upper part of the suspension thread is just level with the low part of the strut hole.
The strut brace needs to be slightly bent upwards to fit nicely without any obstruction.
Rover 214i cabriolet v16 1994 BRG & lightstone leather
Rover 25 1.4 Saws Tuning remapped 2002 platinum silver
Rover 75 V6 2.5 1999 Atlantic blue & sandstone beige leather

User avatar
Dorchester
Club Member
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:00 am
Location: Bioule, France

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#12 Post by Dorchester » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:06 pm

I've ordered the German Wiechers front brace strut (see pic above). I'll tell you.
Rover 214i cabriolet v16 1994 BRG & lightstone leather
Rover 25 1.4 Saws Tuning remapped 2002 platinum silver
Rover 75 V6 2.5 1999 Atlantic blue & sandstone beige leather

User avatar
Dorchester
Club Member
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:00 am
Location: Bioule, France

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#13 Post by Dorchester » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:39 am

Latest news!
My Wieschers front strut brace is home!
It looks very strong and very well done!

Image

Image

Image
Rover 214i cabriolet v16 1994 BRG & lightstone leather
Rover 25 1.4 Saws Tuning remapped 2002 platinum silver
Rover 75 V6 2.5 1999 Atlantic blue & sandstone beige leather

User avatar
Dorchester
Club Member
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:00 am
Location: Bioule, France

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#14 Post by Dorchester » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:16 pm

Result!
Just that slightly bent shape that Dark Ice unfortunately doesn't offer. It's a mistake of them because Wieschers fits far better so.

Image
Rover 214i cabriolet v16 1994 BRG & lightstone leather
Rover 25 1.4 Saws Tuning remapped 2002 platinum silver
Rover 75 V6 2.5 1999 Atlantic blue & sandstone beige leather

User avatar
ROVER-25X
Posts: 1707
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:17 pm
Location: 1hr 10m from 1234dist
Contact:

Re: Which kind of brace struts...

#15 Post by ROVER-25X » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:31 am

To be fair to Dark Ice they only really have stuff for post 2000 ROVER's and don't specifically sell for the R8 but have parts that can be adapted to fit to cover themselves.
The 25X (2001 ROVER 25 1.4 Impression S, fate TBD)
The CX8 (1997 ROVER Cabriolet 1.6 K-Series, Resto Project)
The 25XD (2004 ROVER 25 2.0TD, Track Car ?)
The Parts Bin (2001 ROVER 25 1.6 S)
The ASTRA-DX (2012 VAUXHALL ASTRA 1.7CDTi, Daily Eco Driver)

Post Reply