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R461NEB - 416 Tourer

#1 Post by 1234dist » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:21 am

As the weather changes my autofactor can start doing his boat payments again.

Time to finally start on the tourer, seeing as i have had it for months and driven around faultlessly. There hasn't really been and reason to do anything in the bad (very cold) weather and with not having a single dry day since owning the car, being honest, i couldn't be bothered.

So now it Begins :clapping

As we are at a whopping 51k miles on this car, chances are the main service hasn't been done yet. Which sucks :unsure

So the shopping list:
Spark Plugs
HT Leads
Thermostat and new housing
Air Filter
CTS
Lambda
Water Pump
Gearbox Oil
1ltr PS Fluid
Sump Gasket
Timing belt
Aux belt/belts
Rear wiper blade
Total price £238

Already owned:
Full gasket set
Headbolts
Oil Filter

So other than a major service, there was a leak on the nearside front cam carrier, unfortunately it's pretty much a top end rebuild bar 10 head bolts to sort that issue, so when in Rome.

The result of this should be a clean sheet come april's MOT.
I can of course do a part by part fix it guide but that might be a little boring for the people who know how to do most of it, so up to you.

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Re: R461NEB - 416 Tourer

#2 Post by 1234dist » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:23 pm

ok a sunny (2 degrees) thursday morning we crack on. 09:30 start taking tools out to the car.


First job after letting the car warm up to the point the fan came on was to take the timing belt over off. Now being of the fat finger variety i ended up dropping the engine down a little on the engine mounts so i could get access to the lower bolts in the drivers footwell.
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Once timing was checked and aligned we can start dropping fluids and taking bits off.
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On pulling the plugs i was happy to see they were in really good condition, maybe a sign this car had been serviced very recently.
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Ok fluides out
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Basically take anything off that connect the head to any part of the rest of the car. remembering fuel feed and fuel return to be the last ones.
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Now the idler comes off and releases the belts and pulley wheels, remember to loosen the pulleys before taking the belt off.
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then release the final 10 headbolts and pull, put the head elsewhere and see what you have left.
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By the looks of it in this instance, it was a just in time move.
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And that's lunch 12:00 :cool

Next water pump and thermostat housing
220 Coupe turbo K785OAT (issues :glare )
Rover Sport 220GTI m-series K56AEP
218 VVC Cabriolet R170FEU
220 GTI M-series J777RAL
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75 2.0 CDT P80CJM
620 SLI P267LOM HONDA
420 GSI Turbo L191CVP

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Re: R461NEB - 416 Tourer

#3 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:31 pm

What’s the oil on the plugs?

Did you get to the bottom of the electrical issue that the original seller had?

Are you keeping it now?
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Re: R461NEB - 416 Tourer

#4 Post by 1234dist » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:34 pm

ok 12:30 start again but got interrupted by the nosey neighbour but needed to crack on so not as many pics in this section.

So in short, new timing belt fitted and water pump fitted
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New oe thermostat fitted and sealed.
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Time to start on the head with a clean up and new inlet gasket ready for sealing the cam carriers on.
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New mls gasket fitted without the shim as this is the first gasket its had done and head placed back on.
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And thats brew time 14:00
220 Coupe turbo K785OAT (issues :glare )
Rover Sport 220GTI m-series K56AEP
218 VVC Cabriolet R170FEU
220 GTI M-series J777RAL
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75 2.0 CDT P80CJM
620 SLI P267LOM HONDA
420 GSI Turbo L191CVP

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Re: R461NEB - 416 Tourer

#5 Post by 1234dist » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:36 pm

Paul_1978_yorks wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:31 pm
What’s the oil on the plugs?

Did you get to the bottom of the electrical issue that the original seller had?

Are you keeping it now?
part of the reason for the rebuild, cam cover gaskets failed.

Nope, just lock it with the key at night. Doesn't drain the battery for about 2 weeks that way.

tbh no, i need a 75 estate, this is just to small for my work load. Will be mechanically sound with 12 month MOT before it goes though.
Will be at pol in it (well that's the plan anyway).
220 Coupe turbo K785OAT (issues :glare )
Rover Sport 220GTI m-series K56AEP
218 VVC Cabriolet R170FEU
220 GTI M-series J777RAL
416 K-series Tourer R416NEB
75 2.0 CDT P80CJM
620 SLI P267LOM HONDA
420 GSI Turbo L191CVP

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Re: R461NEB - 416 Tourer

#6 Post by Paul_1978_yorks » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:00 pm

A For Sale sign in he window and POL sounds like a grand plan!

Would look great with a set of alloys on it.
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1995-N Silver 214 SEi
1995-N Nightfire Red 214 SEi
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1993-K Caribbean Blue 216 Cabriolet
1990-G White 416 GSi
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Re: R461NEB - 416 Tourer

#7 Post by 1234dist » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:46 pm

I keep getting told otherwise.

Not like i don't have 15 sets to choose from if alloys are prefered :laughing2
220 Coupe turbo K785OAT (issues :glare )
Rover Sport 220GTI m-series K56AEP
218 VVC Cabriolet R170FEU
220 GTI M-series J777RAL
416 K-series Tourer R416NEB
75 2.0 CDT P80CJM
620 SLI P267LOM HONDA
420 GSI Turbo L191CVP

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Re: R461NEB - 416 Tourer

#8 Post by ROVER-25X » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:38 pm

I like threads like this. :clapping


Looks tidy mechanically mate, nice catch with the old gasket, nice hint of mayo there, reminded me of my cabby gasket. :D





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Re: R461NEB - 416 Tourer

#9 Post by 1234dist » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:57 pm

Well, been to the mot station today to have a go on the sniffer to see if there is any issues with the old dreaded emissions and all was good.

Quick trip up the ramp shows everything else was good so should be good to go for its mot in June.

No excuse then, see you all at pol :cool
220 Coupe turbo K785OAT (issues :glare )
Rover Sport 220GTI m-series K56AEP
218 VVC Cabriolet R170FEU
220 GTI M-series J777RAL
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75 2.0 CDT P80CJM
620 SLI P267LOM HONDA
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Re: R461NEB - 416 Tourer

#10 Post by Mr Teddy Bear » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:29 am

Hi Craig, where did you support the engine before cracking off the :) timing side engine mount; block of wood under the sump?
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Re: R461NEB - 416 Tourer

#11 Post by 1234dist » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:10 pm

i put a jack on the sump with a pad on it.
That allows you to lift the engine mount side to get access to the small bolts holding the covers on (fat hand problems) and lower it again to get a socket on the cam pulley bolt for timing and the pulley needs to come off to get the belt off.
220 Coupe turbo K785OAT (issues :glare )
Rover Sport 220GTI m-series K56AEP
218 VVC Cabriolet R170FEU
220 GTI M-series J777RAL
416 K-series Tourer R416NEB
75 2.0 CDT P80CJM
620 SLI P267LOM HONDA
420 GSI Turbo L191CVP

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