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1993 Honda Concerto 1.5i

#1 Post by skip_rat » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:16 pm

So this is a little rolling restoration of the Honda Concerto I bought on eBay a few weeks ago. On the drive home I noticed that the heater seemed to be stuck on hot, the brake pedal had a fair bit of travel and there was a horrible wobble if you went over 60mph. Luckily the wobble was just wheel balance.

This is the car at the moment:

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I've fitted a new caliper on the drivers side as the piston seal was leaking slightly. I'm not 100% happy with the passenger side but i need to clean it up further before I decide if it's OK or not. I also replaced both front drop links for the anti-roll bar as they were pretty perished.

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The heater problem turned out to be a rusted stuck valve in the engine bay. That cleaned up easily and some grease soon had it moving again. The problem was the control cable was also bent inside the car. It's amazing just how much trim I had to remove to get access to the end of the cable to straighten it back out. It's working now but still needs putting back together.

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As the car is for my wife it needs to have a height adjustable drivers seat. I've bought a nice (and cheap) set from Bill who was breaking a 418 Touring. They need a bit of a clean before I fit them but I like the material much more than what's currently fitted.

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The material on the door cards is loose and coming away in places so I'm going to recover that in something like black leather or vinyl as I don't have the matching door card material for the seats.

I've done the usual service stuff like filters/plugs/oil but as the car came with no service history I will probably replace the cambelt just to be safe. I need to check over the rear brakes and flush out the last of the old brake fluid in those lines. After that there is some bodywork to attend to, mainly dents and perhaps see if I can get the aircon working.

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Re: 1993 Honda Concerto 1.5i

#2 Post by Vulgalour » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:23 pm

I may be able to furnish you with some matching fabric as I've just pulled out the same interior from my 400 so I've got all the door cards and all the seats. The foams are fairly worn out so the seats aren't going to be much use but I could strip the fabric off them and then you can cut the best bits to size to retrim the Concerto inserts. I wouldn't be surprised if the inserts are removable so you can re-wrap them for a factory look before putting them back together again.
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Re: 1993 Honda Concerto 1.5i

#3 Post by skip_rat » Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:02 pm

Vulgalour wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:23 pm
I may be able to furnish you with some matching fabric as I've just pulled out the same interior from my 400 so I've got all the door cards and all the seats. The foams are fairly worn out so the seats aren't going to be much use but I could strip the fabric off them and then you can cut the best bits to size to retrim the Concerto inserts. I wouldn't be surprised if the inserts are removable so you can re-wrap them for a factory look before putting them back together again.
That would be great thanks, my alternative is to resort to vinyl/leather. The insert does look like it would be removeable and I've had decent results recovering similar panels on other cars.

The drivers seat has now bean cleaned up nicely thanks to Vanish spray foam cleaner. It did take two goes but the centre panel now shows up the multicolour flecks really nicely, they were barely noticable before.

As suspected the passenger caliper is also leaking slightly so I've ordered a replacement. I'll refurbish the old calipers as spares later on as they are suitable for both the Concerto and the 416.

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#4 Post by ROVER-25X » Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:13 am

A/C too, nice ! :D
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#5 Post by 1234dist » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:50 am

They just couldn't get more similar to the rover model could they :blink
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Re: 1993 Honda Concerto 1.5i

#6 Post by crepello » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:03 am

1234dist wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:50 am
They just couldn't get more similar to the rover model could they :blink
They did manage to with the Diesel variant!

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Re: 1993 Honda Concerto 1.5i

#7 Post by Rover dave » Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:16 pm

1234dist wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:50 am
They just couldn't get more similar to the rover model could they :blink
I think the rover looks better from the front as I think the honda looks a bit bulky with those large indicators and big bumper only my opinion :) , that is a tidy car though .

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Re: 1993 Honda Concerto 1.5i

#8 Post by Vulgalour » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:32 pm

The door card fabric may be going to someone else if they can collect the door cards, but all the fabric from the front and rear seats is available. If you'd like it, drop me a PM and we can work out cost of postage, or collection if you're anywhere near Middlesbrough. I don't want anything for the fabric, just the postage.
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Re: 1993 Honda Concerto 1.5i

#9 Post by skip_rat » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:56 am

So I got the passenger side caliper replaced and moved on th the back of the car. Ther rear brakes don't look to bad but I'll probably replace the shoes anyway as I want to give everything a strip down and clean.

However I also noticed this:

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I'm pretty sure the bush is torn right through top and bottom so I can't imagine this is helping the ride quality much. :laughing The drivers side is torn at the bottom so I've ordered a set of bushes plus seeing as I have 2 R8 based cars I've splashed out on a proper press rather than resort to bashing it out. It's still cheaper than a few hours labour at the local garage plus I have the tool if I ever need to do a rear bush on the other car. The other rear bushes seem OK apart from the lower shock absorber bush where it mounts to the lower arm. I'm not sure if that bush is available though.

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Re: 1993 Honda Concerto 1.5i

#10 Post by crepello » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:06 am

Do let us know how the bush press works out for you. Been thinking about getting one myself, as the last bush replacement job I did was torrid!

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Re: 1993 Honda Concerto 1.5i

#11 Post by 220 GSi turbo » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:16 pm

1234dist wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:50 am
They just couldn't get more similar to the rover model could they :blink
They made a better job of producing two different cars than the Ford Fiesta & Mazda 121 effort.

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Re: 1993 Honda Concerto 1.5i

#12 Post by burtonm » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:26 am

I'll agree there.

I note the Concerto has a/c, is it more common on those?
My mum has expressed interest in retrofittifng a/c to whatever R8 I have.
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Re: 1993 Honda Concerto 1.5i

#13 Post by 1234dist » Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:56 am

you can use the zr kit,

when my cabby temp needle was going above midway (before the fans kicked in) i contemplated using the ac fan on a manual switch.

The r8 even still has the cutouts in the front panel the kit sits in.
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Re: 1993 Honda Concerto 1.5i

#14 Post by skip_rat » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:16 pm

Quite a lot of progress as my friend came to help, for starters the bush press arrived:

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It's really heavy which made using it with the arm still on the car a bit of a pain, but it did the job. The drivers side pushed out with no problem, but the passenger side was more of a struggle and it made a few worrying creaks and groans. I'd say the main issue with it is that if you're using it without a helper it's a little difficult to hold it in place and get everything lined up, you would end up wishing for an extra arm. :laughing2
When putting the new bushes in it was best to get them held in place by tapping them in lightly with a hammer and then using the press to get them properly in place. Overall id's say it's worth the money if you know you might have to do the job more than once.

I've also got the rear brakes rebuilt including new shoes and a new cylinder on one side. The interior is out but I havn't got the new one in as I took the opportunity to get my friend who can weld to repair a bit of damage to the drivers floor (probably from a careless tyre fitter). He also beat out the dent in the boot lid so I just need to give it a thin skim of filler and paint it.

Next step is to clean the carpet and then fit the new interior. After that it should be good to start using although I would like to change the coolant and get the cambelt changed.

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