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Air in diesel filter

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:16 am
by R8SRGR8
Hi all I have a problem with my Blue snail. (418 TD Diesel tourer) I have to bleed the air out of it every morning at the filter which is easy enough but an absolute pain. I have changed the filter, return pipes, injectors and glow plugs prior to the air in problem so would appreciate any ideas as to what could be causing this. There are no obvious fuel leaks anywhere. In addition, because the car is so slow I am considering an engine change to a K series 1.8 and wondered if those wise men amongst you know what would be involved if I went down this route. I would more likely than not use a donor car for the engine swap. Thanks in anticipation. :D

Re: Air in diesel filter

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:14 pm
by GTiJohn
That's not a small job to contemplate!

There'll be some welding in the engine bay as the engine-end mount is quite different. If you've got a donor then you'll have most bits available so it's possible :D

Re: Air in diesel filter

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:44 pm
by RoverRevival
Honestly, just sell the diesel and buy a petrol one.

I’d run out of fingers before I could list all the bits required to be changed.

Re: Air in diesel filter

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:14 pm
by R8SRGR8
Thanks for the comments about the engine swap but in the meantime I still need to use the car so any ideas about the air in the fuel as its frustrating as hell. :cursing

Re: Air in diesel filter

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:18 pm
by RoverRevival
It can only be one thing, you have a split in the pipe somewhere above fuel tank level.

Re: Air in diesel filter

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:33 pm
by 961tat
Have you checked the bleeder on filter housing , sound like pin hole or split somewhere .
You wont like the 1.8 k fuel consumption after having that diesel sipping snail that will do 250k easy that i do know .
Stick with it , you need to Pressure test pipes going to and from filter housing and recheck what as been done , somthings been over looked . :thumbup :thumbup

Re: Air in diesel filter

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:56 pm
by 220 GSi turbo
Does your car have a priming bulb on the fuel line somewhere near the filter?

I have had to change that part on a couple of Rovers with the L-series diesel engine recently because they had perished with age and were allowing air into the fuel line while the engine was not running.

Exactly the same symptoms as you have been having! The 'genuine' replacement part from Rimmer Bros is around £55, but I found something very similar in Halfords for £8.99 (A 'Laser priming tool') that fits in place of the original and seems to be working well so far :wink3

I am not sure if the Peugeot diesel installation in the R8 has a priming bulb, but it would be worth having a careful look at it if you have one fitted. Give it a good squeeze and see if it appears to be sweating or leaking fuel.

As regards the lack of power, I have never heard any Peugeot or Citroen owners complain of poor performance from their XUD turbo engines, so maybe it would be worth searching online for ways to tweak yours (after checking for blocked air filter, leaking intercooler and pipes etc)

Re: Air in diesel filter

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:48 pm
by R8SRGR8
Thanks for the assit guys plenty of useful stuff. I;ll get checking and see what I can sort. Once again thanks. :clapping

Re: Air in diesel filter

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:45 pm
by richard moss
R8SRGR8 wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:16 amIn addition, because the car is so slow I am considering an engine change to a K series 1.8 and wondered if those wise men amongst you know what would be involved if I went down this route.
I would have thought that fitting an L series out of an R3 200 or HHR 400 would be easier

Re: Air in diesel filter

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:33 pm
by Russnp
An L series tourer is the vehicle of dreams!
I have a remapped L series ZR absolutely fantastic car so much power and torque and still does well over 50mpg. That would be fantastic in a tourer.
It is much faster than my VVC coupe