Sagging Drivers Door on Cabriolet - Cause?

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Sagging Drivers Door on Cabriolet - Cause?

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My Drivers door on the Cabby has some slop to it, seems to catch the striker hard and needs a little lift to engage properly.

I had a look at the components on Rimmers, but does anyone know the exact cause and solution before I do something dumb like ordering all new hinges and pins etc. :slapme

Although, a new check strap wouldn't go a miss. :sleep



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4 - Upper Hinge (Out of Stock)

5 - Lower Hinge

8 - Check Strap

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Re: Sagging Drivers Door on Cabriolet - Cause?

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Have you tried to watch the hinge while picking up the door?

Is it frameless? perhaps try taking up the slop with a scissor jack with a block under the door bottom?
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Re: Sagging Drivers Door on Cabriolet - Cause?

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Hinges for 3-dr have been NLA for some years, unless some more have turned up since I looked. My 3-dr hatchback
had the same problem. As these doors are longer, there's more load on the hinge pins than in the 4- & 5-dr.

I diagnosed it as wear at the hinge pins, and lifted a door off to investigate. This is possible without unbolting the
hinges if the door is opened wide enough. On mine, the pins weren't obviously worn, but the mating holes were. I
discovered that a quality design job had been done, and the holes were bushed with oilite bushings. It was possible
to drift the bushes out for replacement. Unfortunately, I couldn't trace exact replacements, and ended up with a
PTFE-lined equivalent, similar to this.
Note, I'm not sure at this distance in time that this is the exact size I used.
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Maybe it would be worth taking a chance on a 5-door hinge and extracting the bushes from it :idea:
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I have good hinges for cabriolet and door straps
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crepello wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 11:53 amOn mine, the pins weren't obviously worn, but the mating holes were. I
discovered that a quality design job had been done, and the holes were bushed with oilite bushings.

It was possible to drift the bushes out for replacement. Unfortunately, I couldn't trace exact replacements, and ended up with a
PTFE-lined equivalent, similar to this.
Note, I'm not sure at this distance in time that this is the exact size I used.

Interesting, ive saved that site, they are cheap enough, it's a ways off yet, but once stripped i'll get the calipers out and check sizes.

Did it fix your issue?




220 GSi turbo wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 8:32 pm Maybe it would be worth taking a chance on a 5-door hinge and extracting the bushes from it :idea:

Another interesting idea, do you think that could be feasable?




961tat wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 8:34 pm I have good hinges for cabriolet and door straps

My lack of surprise can't be shown via typing here *laughs*. :laughing2
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1997 ROVER Cabriolet - 1.6 K-Series - Now back home in the New Garage, still mouldy, but dry!
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Re: Sagging Drivers Door on Cabriolet - Cause?

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ROVER Cabby wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 7:47 pm Did it fix your issue?

Pretty much!

I did similar to the windscreen wiper spindle bushes to stop the arms catching the bonnet edge as it
was lifted. Not so successful, I think the arms were actually slightly curled with age.
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Re: Sagging Drivers Door on Cabriolet - Cause?

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Keeps my options open then. :)
2001 ROVER 25 - 1.4 Impression S - Been sat since 2018
1997 ROVER Cabriolet - 1.6 K-Series - Now back home in the New Garage, still mouldy, but dry!
2012 VAUXHALL ASTRA - 1.7CDTi EcoTec - Daily Oil Leaker
2007 VAUXHALL TIGRA - 1.4 TwinTop - No MOT
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