Clutch Pedal Goes Straight to the Floor

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Clutch Pedal Goes Straight to the Floor

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Driving the Rover 25 yesterday morning, there was a clump sort of sound and the clutch pedal went straight to the floor due to no resistance and I was n longer able to change gear. So a breakdown and needed recovery (This is a whole saga itself).
My brief investigation found the cable moving freely under the bonnet so it has either detached from the pedal or snapped. Of course I cannot say which.
The clutch and cable were changed less than four years ago and I really don't think there should be another failure so soon.

Anyone have any experience on this?
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You may find the attachment to the pedal itself has fatigued and failed - seen this once before on a 25.
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I agree, it should have lasted longer. I had a clutch cable failure on our 214 a few years ago, however that was after more than 20 years use. It failed at the clutch end where it goes into the clutch lever, the plastic fitting having disintegrated. Assume yours looks OK at that end.
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I suspect you might be right about the pedal attachment as that has not been replaced.

I cannot see at the clutch end but the cable feels loose through the bulkhead which is why I am pretty sure it is the pedal end.
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The clutch cable has snapped. So have ordered a replacement from Rimmers.

The current one was only changed three and a half years and about 10,000 miles ago.
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So had the clutch cable changed but it seems the clutch itself has failed as not able to disengage. Really not in the script.
Any recommendation for the replacement?
Looks like two options from Rimmers, Borg and Beck or the MG Rover one. Would one be better than the other or are there other options too?
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The MG Rover clutch from Rimmers won’t necessarily be a genuine part anymore, it’ll possibly be something aftermarket in an MG Rover box.

If it is a genuine clutch (worth emailing them to ask - the way to tell is if it HASN’T got the XPart website printed on the label) then it’s worth having. Otherwise, a Borg & Beck will be a reasonable substitute.

Worth checking when the gearbox is out that the clutch actuation arm hasn’t seized in the bell housing (which may have stressed the cable & caused premature failure).
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Sourced a clutch from Rimmers and Rover was collected in the week. But turns out the root cause is the clutch release fork with is not longer available. Cheeked with Rimmers and the Rover part number is UTB000040. So, hoping for something from these options.
1 Does anyone have a spare or knows where one can be sourced?
2 Being form the Ford IB5 gearbox, is there a corresponding Ford part number that is still available. The gearbox would have been used of Fords too so surely must have had a Ford part number too.
3 Do we know the actual manufacturer of the part and might it be sourced from them?
4 Finding a second hand part form a breakers or ebay. The concern would be the quality and whether it might have the same issue and the failed part. Are these a common point of failure?
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A quick scan of eBay reveals a secondhand fork from a breakers at £75 plus postage (they also have a gearbox for sale without the fork so we can see what's going on here! :laughing2 ) there is also a secondhand gearbox available for £50 if you are willing to collect it from Crewe :drive1

I would probably bet that this is a standard Ford part and after a bit of Googling I found these numbers mentioned on a Ford forum: 91AB-7503-AG and Finis 6928449
Somebody else mentioned that if the problem is due to a broken or missing pin in the release fork, it can probably be replaced with a generic split roll pin of suitable diameter.

Are there any breakers near you that would have a late 25 or 45 in?
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Re: Clutch Pedal Goes Straight to the Floor

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No idea what breakers round here might have but found this
https://www.bearingkits.co.uk/Rover-400 ... #gsc.tab=0

If this is the right part, it might worth looking into.
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