220 turbo coupe with 4wd... possible?
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:43 pm
We were discussing last night if it was possible to create a four wheel drive 200 from standard Honda parts.
Given there is a Japanese Concerto with 4wd (albeit with double wishbone front suspension) which has no body modifications from the front drive concerto to accomodate the 4wd system and that this 4wd system is shared by the Honda shuttle. I see no reason why the shuttle 4wd couldn't be transferred to a 200. Possibly just needing a couple of mounting brackets welded on.
As I remember from discussions I've read about the shuttle 4wd on USA forums, the weak point in the system from a performance point of view is the extra diff in the gearbox and the 4wd system only being affective when there is wheelspin on the front wheels. The back axle just seems to be a standard open diff and driveshafts to the hubs, so I see no reason why it couldn't cope with 1/2 the torque of the engine.
We then thought of the freelander PG1 gearbox, which could be used with the 2.0 turbo T series in the standard 220 front end, possibly needing a cut and shut prop shaft to connect the two ends.
The gear linkages and exhaust route might need a little inventive re-engineering too.
The only problem (I've just thought of in reading this) would then be axle ratios, I don't know how they work in a 4wd car, the whole idea could fall down there.
It was only a discussion anyway, but the benefits of splitting 1/2 the torque to the rear on a 220 turbo was definitely worth exploring. Anyone else had similar thoughts?
Given there is a Japanese Concerto with 4wd (albeit with double wishbone front suspension) which has no body modifications from the front drive concerto to accomodate the 4wd system and that this 4wd system is shared by the Honda shuttle. I see no reason why the shuttle 4wd couldn't be transferred to a 200. Possibly just needing a couple of mounting brackets welded on.
As I remember from discussions I've read about the shuttle 4wd on USA forums, the weak point in the system from a performance point of view is the extra diff in the gearbox and the 4wd system only being affective when there is wheelspin on the front wheels. The back axle just seems to be a standard open diff and driveshafts to the hubs, so I see no reason why it couldn't cope with 1/2 the torque of the engine.
We then thought of the freelander PG1 gearbox, which could be used with the 2.0 turbo T series in the standard 220 front end, possibly needing a cut and shut prop shaft to connect the two ends.
The gear linkages and exhaust route might need a little inventive re-engineering too.
The only problem (I've just thought of in reading this) would then be axle ratios, I don't know how they work in a 4wd car, the whole idea could fall down there.
It was only a discussion anyway, but the benefits of splitting 1/2 the torque to the rear on a 220 turbo was definitely worth exploring. Anyone else had similar thoughts?
