Rear Light Cluster Leak

Having problems with your club car? This is the place for asking advice and help on technical problems. Resident experts will be on hand to help you keep your car in tip top condition
Paul_1978_yorks
Club Member
Posts: 2921
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:11 pm
Location: Wakefield, West Yorks
Contact:

Rear Light Cluster Leak

Post by Paul_1978_yorks »

I'm getting water in my boot (R8) and have determined it's coming from the offside rear light cluster.

I took it out on Sunday and siliconed around the rubber/foam seal - however it's still leaking.

I can't quite work out where it's getting in, so any assistance appreciated as I know it's a common issue, so surely someone have been through the same rigmarole!
Current:
2018 Volvo V40 Cross Country
Former:
214 SEi x4, 216 SLi, 216 Cabriolet, 416 GSi, 420 GSi Tourer, 25, 45, 75
User avatar
RoverRevival
Forum User
Posts: 7558
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:08 pm
Location: Manchester

Re: Rear Light Cluster Leak

Post by RoverRevival »

this is going to sound extreme but bare with me.

Take the rear bumper off you see vents on both sides which look like this.

Image

These are also prone to leaking.

Take it out, you will need a punch tool as its rivited and make a new gasket.
Image
Image

Then seal the fap out of it.
Image

Thanks to northener51 for the pics.
Paul_1978_yorks
Club Member
Posts: 2921
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:11 pm
Location: Wakefield, West Yorks
Contact:

Re: Rear Light Cluster Leak

Post by Paul_1978_yorks »

Thanks - a job for when there's some dry weather forecast!
Current:
2018 Volvo V40 Cross Country
Former:
214 SEi x4, 216 SLi, 216 Cabriolet, 416 GSi, 420 GSi Tourer, 25, 45, 75
E_T_V
Forum User
Posts: 2915
Joined: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:25 pm

Re: Rear Light Cluster Leak

Post by E_T_V »

There are 3 common ways to get water in the boot.

1. Leaking cluster seals - silicone or new foam gaskets are the usual fix here

2. Leaking vents - it is usually the car to vent seal that leaks so again a new gasket/silicone that is the issue here. The vent flap itself is usually much more reliable. R3's got only one vent whereas the R8 got 2 for some reason.

3. Sunroof drains. If displaced can leak all the sunroof water into the boot instead. Fairly obvious once you remove the boot interior trims and can see them.
Paul_1978_yorks
Club Member
Posts: 2921
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:11 pm
Location: Wakefield, West Yorks
Contact:

Re: Rear Light Cluster Leak

Post by Paul_1978_yorks »

It's definitely the light cluster - when I take off the bulb access panel I can see the water.
Current:
2018 Volvo V40 Cross Country
Former:
214 SEi x4, 216 SLi, 216 Cabriolet, 416 GSi, 420 GSi Tourer, 25, 45, 75
User avatar
Vulgalour
Forum User
Posts: 791
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:02 am

Re: Rear Light Cluster Leak

Post by Vulgalour »

I think you just diagnosed where my 414 is letting water in though. Have to get the back bumper off again - which is a good opportunity to sort the saggy bracket I suppose - and get those sealed up properly.

The water is sitting in the corners of the boot as photographed.
Image

Image

The only place I can see it might be getting in is the vents that are hidden by the bumper, you can see in that last picture that there's some water staining from it to the wetness in the boot.

I'd dismissed it being the vents because they looked okay but having seen those pictures above I'm fairly sure that's what's doing it because the water is coming in at boot floor level and soaking across the trim.
Current Fleet:
1980 Austin Princess 2 1700 HL
1994 Rover 414 SLi
User avatar
RoverRevival
Forum User
Posts: 7558
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:08 pm
Location: Manchester

Re: Rear Light Cluster Leak

Post by RoverRevival »

STICKY!!!!!


:laughing2
alviseven
Club Member
Posts: 228
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:39 pm
Location: North Warwickshire

Re: Rear Light Cluster Leak

Post by alviseven »

I have had water come in through the rear boot seal as well - I had a sticky hinge on one of mine which was so sticky it turned out to be pretty much seized and so had bent very slightly - only just so you know but it was enough to pull the boot lid up off the seals on the one seized side and allow water in the side.
Cured with a new hinge from another car which sadly was THE last one I have found in a yard now over three years ago.
Twin G reg Red 216GSi Rovers
cabriolet106
Forum User
Posts: 221
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:00 pm
Location: Teesside

Re: Rear Light Cluster Leak

Post by cabriolet106 »

Check the water isn't coming in from higher up. Check the roof seam for leakage there may be a small pin hole under some trim. The new generation Ford Fiestas have a fault where the same thing happens.
When you remove any carpet type trim check if it's damp high up or smells. I would also check the tailgate rubber seal if it's getting tired it won't be doing its job. The other alternative is to drill a small hole where the water pools to let it escape.
Montegoman
Membership Secretary
Posts: 1862
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:57 am
Location: North Bucks

Re: Rear Light Cluster Leak

Post by Montegoman »

The other alternative is don't take it out when it rains!
214SLi H706JPJ (11 yrs of ownership)
214GSi G79XKV (R8 No.1) (9 yrs of ownership)
25GSi 2.0TD KX56KXM Owned from new.
75 2.5 Connoisseur SE Tourer (20 yrs of ownership)
Montego Countryman 2.0i (Back where I belong!)
Post Reply