Rover 200 & 400 Owners Club

ABS units, especially the Honda-derived versions.

220 GSi turbo wrote:ABS units, especially the Honda-derived versions.

For Bosch ABS, yes but Honda ALB is nearly a lost cause!

Hannes Glasow, over in Germany, is the only person I know to save one and that involved getting a Honda dealer to fit a new pump

But putting together a 'how-to' guide for removing it would be a good idea with photos and part numbers

Door hinges:
Not a problem once you know that they are bushed with a standard size, and a direct replacement is available.

Forgotten where I got them now, but could dig through the chaos and come up with the source if it helps.


Wiper spindle bearings:
Not a problem once you know that they are bushed with a standard size. I couldn't find a sintered replacement, so DU did the job:

MB1010D Permaglide Steel Backed Plain Bush 10x12x10mm £2.23 ea.
http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/advanc ... ds=MB1010D

The wiper bearing housings are cast with a taper (draft) in the bore, for ease of manufacture, with a larger diameter seat each end for the bushes. One end bearing bush sits just proud of the bore surface, and can be felt and drifted out gradually with a slim pin punch.

The other end sits almost flush with the narrow end of the casting bore, so can't be drifted without some extra work. I chose to chuck the casting in my lathe, and used a slot drill in the tailstock to drill in from the wide end of the bore, turning the work by hand, until I felt and heard a change in cut, as the slot drill found the second bush. That could then be drifted like the first. The slot drill diameter chosen was somewhere between the wide and narrow diameters of the casting bore.

The original bushes are solid, the replacements, manufactured by rolling from strip, have a lengthways slit. I considered the direction the load would be applied by the wipers, and aligned each bush so the slit pointed away from the loaded side. A small vice pressed the new bushes in.

Six months of quiet wipers were enjoyed before tin-worm in the sills caused an MoT failure!

crepello wrote:Door hinges:
Not a problem once you know that they are bushed with a standard size, and a direct replacement is available.

Wiper spindle bearings:
Not a problem once you know that they are bushed with a standard size. I couldn't find a sintered replacement, so DU did the job.

Forgotten where I got them now, but could dig through the chaos and come up with the source if it helps.

Yes pls - that's the purpose of this thread, to get the info available and then put all in one place

Honda fuel main relay: Annoying only if you do not know what to look for. For someone knowing the typical signs and someone able to use a solder iron, it is fixed within minutes. I did so quite a few times and all work fine ever since.

Honda ALB: Honda should have most/all of the spares, but at rather steep prices. Until it was rather unwantedly scrapped my ex 216GSi had a well working ALB and A/C. I still have some spares for both A/C and ALB - if someone is interested.

All cars: Front subframes rust through and are not anymore available through x-part. Honda may still have them though. There may be differences between 1.6 and 1.4 models though.

Regards,

Alexander

Fuel tanks are also getting a bit thin on the ground now as well

Is the front sub-frame the bit the runs across under the radiator, bolted on by the towing hooks? Does look a critical component with the stays to the front suspension. I unbolted mine recently, mainly because the towing hooks looked a bit rusty. Years ago I did Waxoyl the sub-frame, but there was rust starting again at the ends. It's quite an easy thing to access, so worth checking and repainting and rustproofing before it's too late.

The petrol tank is a good one. Don't know how we'd get a replacement for that. I put a new one on our 1990 214 about 10 years ago. The first one had started to rust round the seam joining the upper and lower shells and petrol was leaking. Prevention is better than cure, so worth paying attention to this with paint and Waxoyl.

Fortunately our car doesn't have ABS, but I have replaced the Engine Management Unit. Don't know if they are still available on an exchange basis. Ours is an early SPi K16 engine. The other gotcha might be the various sensors.

This is a useful thread, as we might get a list of critical parts worth salvaging off a car going for scrap.

g259fsg wrote:This is a useful thread, as we might get a list of critical parts worth salvaging off a car going for scrap.

Very good point

We'll have a webpage for all this stuff eventually

To get all the parts that we might need to save our cars will cost, so it might be wroth looking into a scrap dealer who specialise in Rover parts to see if we can get some sort of deal/discount with them.

GTiJohn wrote: 2) Honda 1.6 fuel relay causing engine stalls. Normal solution is just to replace the relay with another one an hope! Alternative relays have been suggested but where is that info? Link?

One of my favourite fixes! You can completely solve this issue with a cheap, regular relay and dump the weirdo Honda relay in the bin forever . This diagram pretty much explains all you need to do... I can even put a 'how-to' together when I get a spare minute... I'll get round to joining the club too!