Well was under a different car today and was removing roll bar ,well it was welded to the chassis !!!!! bodge job

Is that Welding ?

Looks like a flock of Seagulls have shat on it

Kriss707 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:31 pm Is that Welding ?

Looks like a flock of Seagulls have shat on it

Yep grapes one owner car been in a garage since before 2005 no mot history on line, amazing what can go on , what I'll like to know and never will is how broke in the first place .

I have a saying regarding classic and vintage cars:

It's not the car thats at fault, it's the so-called "expert" that had it before you!

P.S.
I'm currently restoring a 1931 Daimler with a Knight sleeve valve engine. It's called a" Knight" because if you have one you don't sleep at (K)night.

961tat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:01 am

Kriss707 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:31 pm Is that Welding ?

Looks like a flock of Seagulls have shat on it

what I'll like to know and never will is how broke in the first place .

I know of two cars that it has happened on, and in both cases it was not rust. The ARB bracket bolts through the chassis box section to a threaded strip of steel which is not particularly wide and over a period of time it exerts enough force on the chassis section to break out of it. It's a fairly straightforward repair to a competent welder (although definitely advisable to remove the fuel tank) and can be restored to factory spec leaving very little sign that a repair has taken place.

Looks like the one in your photo was a typical 'MoT repair'. Poor solution (welding the bracket directly to the body) and poor execution (rubbish welding. Or maybe even Tiger Seal )

Tiger sesl its not that good *laughs* yes I've been looking on coupe fourn on a car rebuild last night and there another one with the same issue quite common they say , racers must beef there's up .

That picture is hurting my eyes

Common problem, the ‘L shaped’ bracket that holds the ARB to the chassis weakens over time due to rust between the two surfaces.

It’s a straight forward repair even for an average welder, but this method is just totally wrong!

James3990 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:18 am That picture is hurting my eyes

Common problem, the ‘L shaped’ bracket that holds the ARB to the chassis weakens over time due to rust between the two surfaces.

It’s a straight forward repair even for an average welder, but this method is just totally wrong!

Over the years I've seen silly repairs but I never get the bird shite welding .
I restored a healey sprite in the 80s and that's still going full sills and front chassis legs gas welded you don't get bird shite .

So you racing boys must upgrade yours if they are prone to breaking .