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The R8 Man · Post by **The R8 Man** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:02 pm

Just a quick question, how easy is it to rebuild a 1400 gearbox on a DIY basis, has anyone tried?

Adrian · Post by **Adrian** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:08 pm

Just a thought ...but is the 220 gearbox the same as a 1400, cos if it is I have one you can have for free ..., as far as I know its fine and it wont have been far ....

The R8 Man · Post by **The R8 Man** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:18 pm

Thanks for the generous offer but I've already got a replacement! I just wondered if it was straight forward to overhaul.

Smithy · Post by **Smithy** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:59 pm

The 1.4 box is an R65, and the 2.0 box is a PG1.

Dan recently did my PG1 box and didnt find it too bad. Not sure if there is a manual for the overhaul of the R65 I will have a look.

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:24 pm

Adrian wrote:Just a thought ...but is the 220 gearbox the same as a 1400, cos if it is I have one you can have for free ..., as far as I know its fine and it wont have been far ....

Hey Adrian,

I've just had problems with my 1.6 'box. Would the 2.0 'box you have be a direct or feasible replacement?

Adrian · Post by **Adrian** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:24 am

Marc wrote:
Adrian wrote:Just a thought ...but is the 220 gearbox the same as a 1400, cos if it is I have one you can have for free ..., as far as I know its fine and it wont have been far ....
Hey Adrian,

I've just had problems with my 1.6 'box. Would the 2.0 'box you have be a direct or feasible replacement?

I dont know, to be honest, but I am sure there is someone here who will ....

empsburna · Post by **empsburna** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:25 am

Different boxes.

If you were to get them to fit i'm sure the ratio would be all over the place

214GSI · Post by **214GSI** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:13 pm

I had the gearbox in my 90' 214GSI overhauled.
At 116k the clutch began slipping :( - oil seal had failed, during overhaul it also was found that some shims had broken and bits were floating in the oil :shock:

I trusted the job to a techy I know, Ex- AR trained, and he told me broken shims are a common problem and often cause the gearbox to jam.
However this was the first box he had done due to oil seal failure.

Slightly off thread but related: is the early R8 box different to the later one :?:
My 90'214GSi had the original 'collar lift reverse' box with square gear knob, the whole feel of the gearbox was far more tighter and the gate felt more defined than that in my '95 214 Si?

tompinney · Post by **tompinney** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:54 pm

The R8 Man wrote:Just a quick question, how easy is it to rebuild a 1400 gearbox on a DIY basis, has anyone tried?

I've just rebuilt my PG1 on my coupe (see the gallery) and its defo a DIY-able job if you're compentent with a spanner and take the time to follow the instructions. I rebuilt mine over the space of a fortnight doing a little bit each evening after work. However I don't know much about the box on the 1.4, so can't really help you there. As for parts, have a word with Paul at P S Bearings (formerly The Bearing Shop) he's a real nice guy to deal with and he got me all the uprated steel cage bearings for my box. Tell him I pointed you in his direction.

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:23 pm

Does anyone know if the 1.8 VVC or 1.4 'boxes would be compatible with the 1.6 engine? I think the ratios are very similar on the 1.4 and 1.6 having just changed from the former to the latter.

Please help!!!!

Cheers :?:

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