[Vinny1979]

So this is my 3rd bearing on the front

1 had play so changed it
Second wAs faulty (noisy upon road test)

Just put a new one in the front and I have play still!!

What’s going on it’s minimal but I imagine with wheel on and back on the car noticeable

?!?

Bear in mind the car has done a mile in 5 years

I don’t want to mot it and fail on this if it will fail if you get me

Here’s a video of the issue from the first bearing
I wrongly assumed new bearing would fix it

https://youtu.be/HqUprN3PRm4

[benh2019]

Maybe a stupid question is the main hub ok?

[Johnny 216GSi]

So this is my 3rd bearing on the front

1 had play so changed it
Second wAs faulty (noisy upon road test)

Just put a new one in the front and I have play still!!

What’s going on it’s minimal but I imagine with wheel on and back on the car noticeable

?!?

Bear in mind the car has done a mile in 5 years

I don’t want to mot it and fail on this if it will fail if you get me

Here’s a video of the issue from the first bearing
I wrongly assumed new bearing would fix it

https://youtu.be/HqUprN3PRm4

Definitely looks like the bearing moving in the knuckle rather than the hub moving withinthe centre of the bearing.

How clean was the knuckle when you pushed the old bearing out?

I'd suggest that the metal has erroded on the outside radius wall of the bearing hole - in the knuckle - towards the bottom of the recess the bearing fits in. It's giving you the impression it's a tight fit, but it's the top edge/rim that's gripping and the rest is worn by the looks of it.

New knuckle required would be my diagnosis.

[Vinny1979]

Maybe a stupid question is the main hub ok?

Yes fine

So this is my 3rd bearing on the front

1 had play so changed it
Second wAs faulty (noisy upon road test)

Just put a new one in the front and I have play still!!

What’s going on it’s minimal but I imagine with wheel on and back on the car noticeable

?!?

Bear in mind the car has done a mile in 5 years

I don’t want to mot it and fail on this if it will fail if you get me

Here’s a video of the issue from the first bearing
I wrongly assumed new bearing would fix it

https://youtu.be/HqUprN3PRm4

Definitely looks like the bearing moving in the knuckle rather than the hub moving withinthe centre of the bearing.

How clean was the knuckle when you pushed the old bearing out?

I'd suggest that the metal has erroded on the outside radius wall of the bearing hole - in the knuckle - towards the bottom of the recess the bearing fits in. It's giving you the impression it's a tight fit, but it's the top edge/rim that's gripping and the rest is worn by the looks of it.

New knuckle required would be my diagnosis.

The knuckle was clean

This is my concern, it is the bearing moving in the knuckle, its not the hub moving, its the whole thing,

Are you thinking this needs changing like now, before I try and mot it?

What a nightmare trying to find one?!

[Johnny 216GSi]

Are you thinking this needs changing like now, before I try and mot it?

What a nightmare trying to find one?!

You're probably fine for the MOT - they won't pick it up I don't think - no reasonable way of testing for that during the MOT.

The knuckle is the same from the 216 up on 1989 to 1995 cars. You need a 216SLi, 216GSi, 216GTi or 220. Note however, that there was an engineering revision which means the flat on on one of the arms and the tapped hole to take the ABS cable bracket wasn't machined on some of the lower spec and later cars. They do have the ABS sensor bolt-on holes themselves - just ot the hole halfway up one o fthe arms that carries the bracket that keeps the cable safely away from the wheel.

[Vinny1979]

Are you thinking this needs changing like now, before I try and mot it?

What a nightmare trying to find one?!

You're probably fine for the MOT - they won't pick it up I don't think - no reasonable way of testing for that during the MOT.

The knuckle is the same from the 216 up on 1989 to 1995 cars. You need a 216SLi, 216GSi, 216GTi or 220. Note however, that there was an engineering revision which means the flat on on one of the arms and the tapped hole to take the ABS cable bracket wasn't machined on some of the lower spec and later cars. They do have the ABS sensor bolt-on holes themselves - just ot the hole halfway up one o fthe arms that carries the bracket that keeps the cable safely away from the wheel.

Many thanks for this

Well if the car is jacked up and you grip the wheel top and bottom there is noticable play in the whole knuckle/hub etc

The lack of abs cable hole would not be an issue, I could get by

[benh2019]

I call the knuckle the main hub. Could be called the wheel bearing carrier too I suppose. The the wheel bearing hub.

Think you need the knuckle/main/ carrier hub.

Thanks.

[Vinny1979]

I call the knuckle the main hub. Could be called the wheel bearing carrier too I suppose. The the wheel bearing hub.

Think you need the knuckle/main/ carrier hub.

Thanks.

thanks mate

[Johnny 216GSi]

Another look at that video now and it might just be the inner sleeve that's moving. Are they rover bearings you're using?

And the next question - are you using a load spreading plate about the same diameter as the O/D of the bearing, to push it in? You're not just applying pressure to the centre sleeve?

When a bearing is pressed out it breaks the bearing in most cases. So the push-in force is also likely to damage the friction-less joint between the inner and outer sleeve. It needs pushing in with a load spreading plate, or a plate that just pushes on the outer sleeve and doesn't exert any pressure on the inner sleeve.

[961tat]

Had this issue with a bearing supplier ( that we have been using for many years at work ) last year and did it twice both times play in the bearing , car passed its mot with a advisory , but i was not happy with it and got my money back off bearing supplier , when i told them about the mot and the fact that i pressing bearing in as part of my job for many years .

.when I got a bearing from DMGRS and when pressed in no play at all ,

So we're are you getting your bearing from and how are you torque up the driveshaft nut .