[phil58hatch]

..& what's the difference between the Turbo's & Sport Turbo's?


PHIL.

My understanding is that the 'Sport Turbo' was the original incarnation with grey 'Lightning' half leather upholstery, seven-spoke alloy wheels, factory fitted front foglamps and possibly rear electric windows. This was made until late 1993.

Next came the '94 model year GSi Turbo, with Ash Grey (dark) 'Silverstone' upholstery, and six-spoke alloy wheels. No front foglamps and electric windows were only fitted in the front (not even optional for the rear)

Finally, the '94.5 model year GSi Turbo, essentially the same as the '94MY but with an airbag and enhanced security system. This is the version that I owned from 1997 until 2004.

The 420 Turbos did not sell well, and some of the original-spec versions remained unsold into 1995.

Thank's for the useful information!
I've seen then..a early example for sale(grey lightning interior/'93 reg)
Although,these car's throughout the time made were not good seller's..are they worth saving "whatever the condition"?(within reason!)because of their rarity?

PHIL.

[phil58hatch]

Car now SOLD!! ....hope it's gone to a fellow R8 member?
Did think about buying it,but got e mail this morning saying car was Sold!
Shame i did'nt see & hear about it before!

PHIL.

[220 GSi turbo]

Did you have any pictures or other details of it you can post on here, Phil?

[Smithy]

GOSH! they are thin on the ground,guess they must be collectable?
What insurance group do they come under?is your hatch turbo decent on insurance?
Thank's for information.

PHIL.

I can't remember insurance group, I seem to remember it is 17/18 on the old grouping scale.

It isn't too bad, but it is on a modified insurance policy. It would probably be cheaper on a classic policy but nearly all are not interested as it has some modifications.

[phil58hatch]

GOSH! they are thin on the ground,guess they must be collectable?
What insurance group do they come under?is your hatch turbo decent on insurance?
Thank's for information.

PHIL.

I can't remember insurance group, I seem to remember it is 17/18 on the old grouping scale.

It isn't too bad, but it is on a modified insurance policy. It would probably be cheaper on a classic policy but nearly all are not interested as it has some modifications.

Yeah,thought it might be in that group..for a standard car maybe better off with a limited mileage policy,thank's for information

PHIL.

[phil58hatch]

Did you have any pictures or other details of it you can post on here, Phil?

Rover 420 saloon GSi Sport Turbo...1993 & 65,000 mile's Nightfire Red
Reg No; K292TTN..(Dealer in Surrey),Price?......£799
Good Deal I think
& I "Missed It" !!

PHIL.

[220sli]

anyone noticed this before?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROVER-220-GTi ... 415b433606

[Smithy]

It is not an original and the advert fails to state this.

[220 GSi turbo]

That is really interesting and reveals an extremely low survival rate for these cars - if the 1100/500/250 figures that are often quoted are to be believed.

I have always thought that the 420GSi Sport Turbo debate has been a bit strange. In Turbo form, all the 420GSi models were Sport versions so they just dropped it when the 220GSi Turbo came out and they became 420GSi Turbo. I cannot see that there is much different between the 420GSi Turbo and the 420GSi Sport Turbo apart from model year changes (like the wheels) so Rover dropped the name and the DVLA certainly wouldn't be interested in such detail.

Looking at the 'how many left.co.uk' website, the following conclusions can be drawn, based on peak number of cars registered in the UK when new:

220 GTi Turbo: 244 (in 1994)

220 GSi Turbo: 169 (in 1995)

420 GSi Turbo: 296 (in 1995)

Those figures should give a guide as to the numbers originally built and sold into the UK market: obviously the accuracy of registration data cannot be guaranteed (as discussed elsewhere) and there will already have been unsold stock and premature write-offs to take into account (which would cancel each other out to a degree)

Unless BMIHT have any production records available, which could give a more accurate figure?

Compare that with the peak of 1849 Turbo Coupes.
And what happened to the 5 Turbo Cabriolets??!

[carl747]

That is really interesting and reveals an extremely low survival rate for these cars - if the 1100/500/250 figures that are often quoted are to be believed.

I have always thought that the 420GSi Sport Turbo debate has been a bit strange. In Turbo form, all the 420GSi models were Sport versions so they just dropped it when the 220GSi Turbo came out and they became 420GSi Turbo. I cannot see that there is much different between the 420GSi Turbo and the 420GSi Sport Turbo apart from model year changes (like the wheels) so Rover dropped the name and the DVLA certainly wouldn't be interested in such detail.

Looking at the 'how many left.co.uk' website, the following conclusions can be drawn, based on peak number of cars registered in the UK when new:

220 GTi Turbo: 244 (in 1994)

220 GSi Turbo: 169 (in 1995)

420 GSi Turbo: 296 (in 1995)

Those figures should give a guide as to the numbers originally built and sold into the UK market: obviously the accuracy of registration data cannot be guaranteed (as discussed elsewhere) and there will already have been unsold stock and premature write-offs to take into account (which would cancel each other out to a degree)

Unless BMIHT have any production records available, which could give a more accurate figure?

Compare that with the peak of 1849 Turbo Coupes.
And what happened to the 5 Turbo Cabriolets??!

howmanyleft.co.uk is wrong it's been proven wrong