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Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 5:57 pm
by tompinney
Thanks for the information but it doesn't tell me anything more than I already know. I know what the letter positions all mean, that's consistent for all models from 89-99, the issue is what the class, bodystyle, engine and transmission letters all decode to for pre-92 cars.
I've reverse engineered what I can, to decode the details for the data I have from the DVLA which is fine for this exercise, but I've not idea if what I've reverse engineered is actually complete because there could be some extinct models that wouldn't show up in the DVLA data.
Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 7:19 pm
by crepello
tompinney wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:57 pm
Thanks for the information but it doesn't tell me anything more than I already know.
Did you note the extant, but SORN VIN of my own car on the bottom line? As it's a variant
which hasn't made it into your summary table yet!
Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 9:38 pm
by tompinney
If your car isn't captured there it's likely your's is one of the several hundred cars I'm struggling to parse for any of a number of reasons, but I'll take a look tomorrow and see if I can find it.
Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 11:12 am
by kevinwillis
GTIJohn
How many 200 coupe owners does the 200/400 owners club have?
Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 12:05 pm
by Montegoman
We currently have 19 paid up club members with coupes.
Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 12:29 pm
by RoverRevival
montegoman wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:05 pm
We currently have 19 paid up club members with coupes.
does that figure include me
Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 1:00 pm
by Vinny1979
tompinney wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:47 am
Done a bit more work to decode the VINs. Got a much better undertanding of the pre-92 VIN decoding schema now, having reverse engineered from the data I have.
I've still got a good few hundred cars I still haven't properly decoded the VINs for one reason or another, but here is the list as it current stands broken down by model.
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DecodedModel TAXED SORN UNTAXED UNKNOWN
214 Cabriolet 16 62 2 8
214i 170 487 64 269
214Si 39 115 14 27
216 Cabriolet 247 633 63 170
216 Coupe 124 406 33 68
216GTi 110 163 34 133
216GTi Twin Cam 0 6 0 0
216SLi 24 61 6 26
218 VVC Coupe 48 200 11 23
218SD 6 53 5 23
218SD Turbo 18 122 8 35
218SLD Turbo 1 1 0 0
220 Coupe 31 181 16 21
220 Coupe Turbo 60 263 18 11
220GSi Turbo 3 33 2 1
220GTi 14 62 6 5
220GTi Turbo 4 22 0 1
220Si 18 63 3 11
414Si 67 174 26 79
414SLi 4 37 1 5
416 Tourer 32 92 14 30
416GTi 3 3 0 0
416Si 186 384 72 181
418SD 0 11 1 0
418SD Turbo 38 174 17 75
418SLD 3 11 2 3
418SLD Turbo 5 50 1 13
420GSi Sport Turbo 3 23 3 0
420GSi Turbo 0 9 0 1
420Si 22 74 4 18
The above table doesn't currently make a distinction between 3/5dr 200 variants and likewise for saloon/tourer variants of the 400. The 216's also currently cover both the D-series and K-series and I still need to do a bit more research to make sure I've got the correct crossover point to make a determination between 420 GSi Turbos and Sport Turbos.
Watch this space for more updates.
I see no 220 Gsi
Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 6:54 pm
by tompinney
Vinny1979 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 1:00 pm
I see no 220 Gsi
I did wonder how long it would take someone to notice that. I spotted it not long after I posted the table while further refining the data.
I'm now at the point where I have successfully parsed all of the data except for 23 vehicles due to completely garbled VINs, plus three of those cars turned out to Minis that have clearly had their VIN entered incorrectly at the DVLA
. I've also refined the vehicle decoding from VINs and this is the current cut of data, with 214S and 220GSi correctly represented now
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DecodedModel TAXED SORN UNTAXED UNKNOWN
214 Cabriolet 16 62 2 8
214GSi 1 5 1 4
214i 17 52 12 19
214S 0 5 0 0
214Si 130 383 41 168
214SLi 61 158 24 105
216 Cabriolet 274 683 70 177
216 Coupe 125 412 35 68
216GSi 13 22 3 12
216GTi 9 26 1 3
216GTi Twin Cam 0 7 0 1
216Si 0 0 0 1
216SLi 112 176 37 143
218 VVC Coupe 55 209 12 25
218D 1 22 3 9
218GLD Turbo 9 79 5 27
218SD 5 31 2 14
218SD Turbo 8 36 2 5
218SLD Turbo 2 8 1 3
220 Coupe 31 181 16 21
220 Coupe Turbo 66 270 18 11
220GSi 12 38 2 7
220GSi Turbo 3 33 2 1
220GTi 14 63 6 5
220GTi Turbo 4 22 0 1
220SLi 6 25 1 4
414Si 19 64 10 30
414SLi 52 147 17 54
416 Tourer 34 98 16 40
416GSi 25 49 12 27
416GTi 3 3 0 0
416Si 11 41 5 16
416SLi 148 294 55 138
418GSD Turbo 8 36 1 12
418SD 0 11 1 0
418SD Turbo 6 29 2 13
418SLD 3 11 2 3
418SLD Turbo 29 159 15 63
420GSi 18 69 4 15
420GSi Sport 0 6 0 1
420GSi Sport Turbo 3 23 3 0
420GSi Turbo 0 9 0 1
420SLi 14 50 3 15
I'm still not sure I've got the change over point on the 420 GSi Sport Turbo vs 420 GSi Turbo pinned down correct yet, so take those numbers with a pinch of salt.
Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 8:12 pm
by crepello
Blimey - mine's the rarest of the lot! And that's before sub-division by 3dr/5dr.
Edit:
I've checked the 214S examples mentioned over the last few years on the forum against
https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/, and
obtained the following outcomes:
Taxed:
H592DOD
H842DOD
J951EPN
SORN:
H119PSC
H380GDX
J319RJC
Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 12:02 am
by scoubix
tompinney wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:54 pm
Vinny1979 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 1:00 pm
I see no 220 Gsi
I did wonder how long it would take someone to notice that. I spotted it not long after I posted the table while further refining the data.
I'm now at the point where I have successfully parsed all of the data except for 23 vehicles due to completely garbled VINs, plus three of those cars turned out to Minis that have clearly had their VIN entered incorrectly at the DVLA
. I've also refined the vehicle decoding from VINs and this is the current cut of data, with 214S and 220GSi correctly represented now
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DecodedModel TAXED SORN UNTAXED UNKNOWN
214 Cabriolet 16 62 2 8
214GSi 1 5 1 4
214i 17 52 12 19
214S 0 5 0 0
214Si 130 383 41 168
214SLi 61 158 24 105
216 Cabriolet 274 683 70 177
216 Coupe 125 412 35 68
216GSi 13 22 3 12
216GTi 9 26 1 3
216GTi Twin Cam 0 7 0 1
216Si 0 0 0 1
216SLi 112 176 37 143
218 VVC Coupe 55 209 12 25
218D 1 22 3 9
218GLD Turbo 9 79 5 27
218SD 5 31 2 14
218SD Turbo 8 36 2 5
218SLD Turbo 2 8 1 3
220 Coupe 31 181 16 21
220 Coupe Turbo 66 270 18 11
220GSi 12 38 2 7
220GSi Turbo 3 33 2 1
220GTi 14 63 6 5
220GTi Turbo 4 22 0 1
220SLi 6 25 1 4
414Si 19 64 10 30
414SLi 52 147 17 54
416 Tourer 34 98 16 40
416GSi 25 49 12 27
416GTi 3 3 0 0
416Si 11 41 5 16
416SLi 148 294 55 138
418GSD Turbo 8 36 1 12
418SD 0 11 1 0
418SD Turbo 6 29 2 13
418SLD 3 11 2 3
418SLD Turbo 29 159 15 63
420GSi 18 69 4 15
420GSi Sport 0 6 0 1
420GSi Sport Turbo 3 23 3 0
420GSi Turbo 0 9 0 1
420SLi 14 50 3 15
I'm still not sure I've got the change over point on the 420 GSi Sport Turbo vs 420 GSi Turbo pinned down correct yet, so take those numbers with a pinch of salt.
Tom, unless you already had this information, this is the official VIN decoding information for early R8s, from launch to VIN 605481 (mid '92, before facelift introduction with 605482).
