How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?

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Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?

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The list was updated last Tuesday (see page 4 of this thread) to include the missing 220GSi and 214S models :S
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Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?

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tompinney wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:41 am The list was updated last Tuesday (see page 4 of this thread) to include the missing 220GSi and 214S models :S
If you mean it incorporates the extra data you were hoping to receive via your inside contact, it still shows fewer 214S than known survivors!
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Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?

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Vinny pointed out that the 220GSi was missing from the list, but it is now there albeit based on the currently incomplete dataset.

As for the missing data, I was expecting that last week but not heard anything so I'll chase it up tomorrow. Was quite busy at work last week due to losing a day to the bank holiday so never realised it hadn't come through.
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I received the missing data yesterday and I've checked that all the registrations that were missing in the previous page are now accounted for.

I now have records for 10,647 R8s, of which I have been able to decode the model from the VIN of 10,607 of them, leaving 40 that I couldn't decode for reasons including the VIN is too short/long and VINs where they have letters/numbers where they shouldn't be. These failures represent less than 0.4% of the total data which I pretty good I think. Of those 10,607 this is the current break down of stats:

Tax status of the dataset as a whole:

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Tax Status	COUNT
TAXED		1916
SORN		6090
UNTAXED		645
UNKNOWN		1956
Bodystyle counts

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Body Style	TAXED	SORN	UNTAXED	UNKNOWN
2dr Cabriolet	339	864	88	213
2dr Coupe	284	1109	84	130
3dr Hatchback	88	410	40	64
4dr Saloon	318	1024	124	363
5dr Hatchback	781	2421	273	1067
5dr Tourer	106	262	36	119
By models (not yet tried to separate out by body style or engine/transmissions combinations yet. I've also still not decided if I've got the 420GSi Turbo changeover correct yet.)

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Decoded Model		TAXED		SORN		UNTAXED		UNKNOWN
214 Cabriolet		16		63		2		9
214GSi			17		61		3		18
214i			31		90		24		37
214S			7		28		0		4
214Si			248		792		86		314
214SLi			149		518		51		241
216 Cabriolet		285		702		74		180
216 Coupe		125		425		36		70
216GSi			92		229		32		95
216GTi			15		62		2		6
216GTi Twin Cam		23		93		8		14
216Si			1		0		0		1
216SLi			219		380		71		249
218 VVC Coupe		55		211		12		25
218D			8		51		4		15
218GLD Turbo		17		154		9		51
218SD			19		118		13		41
218SD Turbo		14		91		6		26
218SLD Turbo		7		65		3		18
220 Coupe		31		182		17		22
220 Coupe Turbo		73		291		19		13
220GSi			12		39		2		7
220GSi Turbo		3		34		2		1
220GTi			14		63		6		5
220GTi Turbo		4		22		0		1
220SLi			7		40		3		11
414Si			24		81		11		37
414SLi			60		190		19		68
416 Tourer		34		98		16		40
416GSi			36		97		18		46
416GTi			17		47		4		8
416Si			18		56		5		20
416SLi			154		306		56		140
418GSD Turbo		8		39		1		12
418SD			0		11		1		0
418SD Turbo		6		30		2		13
418SLD			3		11		2		3
418SLD Turbo		29		163		15		63
420GSi			18		69		4		15
420GSi Sport		0		6		0		1
420GSi Sport Turbo	3		23		3		0
420GSi Turbo		0		9		0		1
420SLi			14		50		3		15
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Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?

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Very Interesting ourcome, the number of 216GTi twin cams taxed and on-road has shot up to 23 now.

Do you mind if I post your analysis and numbers on the Rover GTi/Coupe Facebook page? Would be good to try and get these 23 cars identified.

Can you list the car's Regs?

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I've not yet checked to see if there are any twin cams included in the "216 GTi" list yet. Up to the 1992MY it looks like the twin cam was encoded separetely from the single cam but then they were combined for the 1992MY, so the total number of twin cams will likely be higher in reality once I've had chance to analyse the data.

I'm happy for you to share the data on the Facebook group(s) John, but I would ask that if you do reproduce it that you acknowledge the source of the data (UK Vehicle Data Ltd) for helping supply the data and myself for the analysis of the data :) I put a lot of time into parsing and analysing the data up to now.
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Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?

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Thanks Tom will hold off for a while and let you finish up.
Will of course credit both sources
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Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?

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Would it be possible to add the split between 3-dr and 5-dr bodystyle into the 'by model' table,
as you have effectively done for the Cabby, please? It would be nice to have a 'Total' column tagged
on the end for each model row too.
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Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?

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Wowzers

Some low numbers on some cars!
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Re: How many R8's left - do we have a definitive number?

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tompinney wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:04 am
I'm happy for you to share the data on the Facebook group(s) John, but I would ask that if you do reproduce it that you acknowledge the source of the data (UK Vehicle Data Ltd) for helping supply the data and myself for the analysis of the data :) I put a lot of time into parsing and analysing the data up to now.
An update to this story https://www.aronline.co.uk/opinion/mg-r ... many-left/ would be interesting either for The Viking or AR Online, or both :clapping
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